Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke is scheduled to brief Congress Tuesday on the economy, which has been walloped by high energy prices and fallout from the housing slump and credit crunch.
"Bernanke to brief Congress on the economy"
Should read
Bernanke to brief Congress on how to protect wall street and shaft us regular people
Read my post, infra./below, on the CONSUMER BOYCOTT, OCTOBER 1, 2008 through OCTOBER 15, 2008, then spread the word.
Thank you.
I am so sick and tired of seeing those @!$%#ing looters on wall street taking tax payer money and putting into their personnal bank accounts.
That is what all this bail bull@!$%# is for. For wall street to get even richer off the tax payers back.
@!$%# wall street....................................... let them fail and let those mother @!$%#ers crash.
And I do blame the media aka news outlets for not telling the damn truth and not doing their damn job. Seriously now its high damn time that the news outlets start reporting the truth and not pandering to the rich wall street interests.
The New York Times quote of the day about 3 years ago was something like: "People are angry with Enron, but the truth is that American consumers have been spending on credit." It was more pithy than that, but the point was that anyone who wants to get on his or her high horse better look in the mirror first.
My brother-in-law wannabe espouses that he's a great American, etc., etc., as he figures out how to sell his mother's house for less than it's worth so he can save some money from being taken by Medicaid.
Lawrence Lindsay, the Bush economic truth teller who was fired for giving a realistic estimate of the Iraqi war said it best today on CNBC: These politicians had better quit posturing for the cameras and realize that their words could start a financial panic.
wait...Congress needs to be briefed on this???
Of course they have to be briefed. They don't drive their own cars, The Government buys alot of their food, the Government provides their health care. In short they don't live in the real world.
Just when is Bernanke going to tell the American people something we don't know!!!
Anyone off of the street could make the same assessments!!
All he does is play to big business and Wall St.; he has no place in that position whatsoever!!
We, the American people are tired of paying to bailing out the mistakes of the rich and famous; when are you going to learn that the American People are the ones who need help; not big business and Wall St. for the profits they have squandered because of their own greed to make more profit!!!!!!!!
WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF BEING USED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He says: "the fragile economy is being confronted by "numerous difficulties" including persistent strains in financial markets, rising joblessness and housing problems, despite aggressive interest rate reductions and other fortifying steps over the past year."
No s**t. Ya think? I am so very disgusted with these people.
"Numerous difficulties" is what you call it when you're pulling down a seven-figure income. For the rest of us it is called a nightmare. These guys are not you and me. Every day businesses pass on their added costs to the consumer. Gas costs more, so trucking costs more, so the goods cost more, so the consumer pays more. The consumer, however, is also dealing with increased gas costs, food costs, housing costs, and every other kind of cost, however we are not able to "pass this cost" along to our consumer (employer). I can't go to my boss and tell him my costs have gone up so I am going to have to charge him more for my labor. In short we end up paying for corporate america's increased costs for fuel, etc, as well as our own increased costs. Do you think that qualifies as numerous difficulties? Do any of these people in Washington have any concept of what is really going on every day in the "real" America? Don't think so. Just sayin'
I agree and to top it off we're being screwed by our own government. The main reason all this is happening is because the politians were'nt held acountable for all their wheeling and dealing at publics expense. All the news media and the political hotshots are doing is flapping their jaws. Shoulda coulda but never done.It's almost comical the way they all talk and get nothing done.
My same thoughts on that comment. Briefing congress, WTF is all that about.
Standby folks for the 5.3 TRILLION dollar bail out so those mother @!$%#ers can get even richer. Why aint some people going to jail for the fraud that has been committed on wall street.
WHY CONGRESS, WHY ARE THOSE LOOTERS NOT GOING TO JAIL FOR THE FRAUD>
I wholeheartedly agree - Why are no charges being filed against these financial institutions?
And Bernake is instituting new lending rules that are not scheduled to take effect until Oct 2009! Not only is it WAY too late and WAY too little - why wait another year to implement them?
WTF is wrong with these people?
Well, this Congress and President Will be remembered for "A NEW LOW" !!!!! I don't want to know how difficult it is to get Toilet paper when in the Congressional Toilets - It probably takes an "ACT OF CONGRESS" and I mean ACT. What a bunch of CR@P.
What do you expect when you elect a President who has a C average...from business school! What can I tell ya? I didn't vote for that son-of-a-@!$%# the 1st time!
We can thank the 'Fiat Money' crowd for ALL of the problems in the financial sector
and then to add in the Congress with their favorite pork projects. Also, let's not forget the
'off balance sheet' expenses of the 'war on terror'. What a frickin' mess. I don't see this
changing much, no matter who gets to the White House next year. God help us !!!
So growth is better than expected because we borrowed $168 billion dollars from China so Americans have the illusion of "growth" going into the election. Isn't that like ENRON accounting?
By the time this president is done this country will be sold to the highest bidder, in this case China.
I'm not for bailing out the irresponsible but if foreclosures don't stop this whole mess will (already has) trickle down to everyone else. Foreclosures continue, market glutted, peopled can't sell their homes and are either forced to foreclose if they lose their job or are prevented from moving elsewhere to look for work, home values continue to decline, people feel poor because they are upside down on their mortgages because of the unprecedented drop in real estate value, banks continue to go under and begin to be funded by the FDIC and your retirement accounts wither forcing you to stay in the workplace longer which doesn't allow jobs to open up for younger workers. They HAVE to stop the bleeding with these foreclosures. Banks are responsible for this mess. I know there are many greedy people who tried to profit and speculate in the housing market but the banks and mortgage companies were only to happey to write out checks for $500,000 to people making $30,000 workign at McDonalds because they knew the loans would sell and it wouldn't be their ass that lost out. Where were the regulators?
Your last question is right on the mark. There was virtually NO regulation of this industry. And why? Because republicans believe industries should be allowed to regulate themselves.
Of course this concept of self regulation has repeatedly been proven to be false, as companies won't do what they don't HAVE to do. But republicans will continue to sell it to the public regardless of the facts.
Let the foreclosures roll. I have saved my a$$ off to the tune of over $86K sitting in FDIC insured investments. I would love to pick up a $300K house for $200K and then put $70K down and live with a $130K 30 year mortgage with a low rate since my credit score is 792.
Greed of the Republicans and STUPIDITY of my fellow Americans have created this mess. Why did you vote that idiot into office a 2nd time?
Why was the jerk elected in the first place? Oh, I forgot he bought a baseball team with dads money and influence. Made a dumb trade or two then sold before he had a chance to show what a wonderful businessman he was. Therefore he was qualified to become President. For the last eight years he and his lack of brain trust have selling the country out to the highest bidders.
Did you forget? He wasn't elected in the first place. He was appointed by the Supreme Court packed by his daddy and Reagan.
In this democracy THE STATES are responsible for conducting elections and counting the votes. THE STATES are required to have rules in place to handle recounts if needed. Florida had those rules in place and was conducting a legal recount per those rules. The Supreme Court stepped in and told the state of Florida to stop counting votes that were their duty and right to count under the pre-existing rules Florida had in place for just such an eventuality.
But Jeb was governor and Katherine Harris was attorney general and the Supreme Court was Republican.
The second round was won by stealing votes in Ohio. But we'll never know the truth behind that because the head of Bush's Ohio campaign, who just happened to be attorney general of Ohio, made sure the voting records from the 2004 election were destroyed, contrary to the very laws he was sworn to uphold.
It's no surprise that bush is the most disliked president in American history. He's worked hard to take a perfectly good country and flush it down the toilet.
Bush might have flushed America down the toilet but he made his fortune doing so. Why do you think he still has that arrogant, sh!t eating grin plastered all over his face every time he swaggers up to the cameras?
This is just amazing! How long are the sheeple going to continue to buy into all of this propaganda. Why do they not report the truth?? In order to bail out all of these banks they need to come up with the money. They are definitely not going to raise taxes because that would upset the voters, so instead they just print the money out of thin air and inflate the dollar even more. It is also ridiculous to think that the inflation rate is only around 4% Why can't they honestly report the correct numbers? The inflation tax is killing the middle and lower classes! Wake up! Get rid of the illegal Federal reserve, it is only creating more bubbles that someday we will have to deal with and that time appears to be approaching.
Bush is doing everything he possibly can while he's still in office to satisfy his money grubbing oil buddies. meanwhile cheyne is pumping the magic dragon....has it always been that way?
The new jobs lost should be in the Congress. All of the incumbents in the Congress should be thrown out. Since the rebates boosted the economy so well, the best thing to do is to give more money back to the American people and cut all of the pork projects out of the budget, I mean ALL of the pork projects, and cut the (literally) free lunches for the Congress (they can buy theirs at McDonald's like the rest of us), cut their staffs (especially PR) and the junkets abroad, from which, apparently they learn nothing but rack up more charges in travel and fancy meal expenses. Even more importantly, make them buy gas for their own cars at the same price we buy it at (4.13 yesterday at BP) and drive their own cars to work and elsewhere. Or better yet, take the Subway, like they're telling us to do.
That should do it.
Pork isn't the problem. That helps American workers actually work and the money goes to someone in the U.S. rather than to India or China. However Americans have been living on a credit economy because two working family members can no longer support their family. This started with Reagan who was the first president to claim the average household now needed two income earners to support it. Bush has finished the job! It the supply of employment is way lower than the supply of workers we can't get the raises necessary to keep up with rising costs. Bush has made sure employment opportunities have been limited so large corps get cheap labor and profit. Now they want to take the rest of your money and give it to Fanny and Freddy but you can bet the CEOs won't take a cut off their $67,000,000.00 salary! They should all sink and Americans should bring back unions!
Funny how Bernake's testimony differs from the President's assessment of the economy.
"President Bush urged lawmakers on Tuesday to move quickly to help prop up mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, while declaring the nation's financial system to be "basically sound."
Hmm...maybe we should put Bush and Bernake together in a room so Bush can tell him to tell Congress that everything is ok and that it's un-patriotic to say the "R" word in a election year. Bush thinks if he says "Everything is ok" long enough people will believe it. The problem is people are looking in their wallets and pocketbooks and saying yes this is a Recession I don't care how you try to dance around it and dress it up. A spade is a spade.
If your rich you really don't see a problem with the economy because you don't have to worry about the price of gas or you being behind mortgage payment...or maybe the groceries that you usually get for $100 has ballooned to $150+. Yeah, it really makes me want to go spend my stimulus check. NOT!
Do you guys know that John McCain collects $50,000 a year? Full disability coverage? for the rest of his life?
If he's collecting disability, how can he run for President?
Meanwhile, Cheney is dressing up in his hunting outfit and pumping the magic dragon in the oval office..."OH RUMMY!...I mean Georgie"
It's $58,358 per year and it's not listed as income on his tax return.
I think it's a disgrace that a multi-millionaire like McCain finds it OK to take money from the federal government but then has the AUDACITY to call Social Security a "disgrace" even though most people who receive Social Security benefits average only $900 per month. If McCain deserves a disability pension then certainly people who PAID into the Social Security system deserve their Social Security pension as well.
The true disgrace is McCain.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/22/nation/na-pension22
McCain's disability pension may renew questions about his fitness
By Ralph Vartabedian
April 22, 2008Sen. John McCain has long said he is in robust health and is strong enough to hike the Grand Canyon, but he also is receiving what his staff Monday termed a "disability pension" from the Navy.
When McCain released his tax return for 2007 on Friday, he separately disclosed that he received a pension of $58,358 that was not listed as income on his return.
On Monday, McCain's staff identified the retirement benefit as a "disability pension" and said that McCain "was retired as disabled because of his limited body movements due to injuries as a POW."
McCain campaign strategist Mark Salter said Monday night that McCain was technically disabled. "Tortured for his country -- that is how he acquired his disability," Salter said.
Certain types of military and veterans pensions are either partially or completely tax-exempt, depending on the seriousness of the disability. In McCain's case, the exemption is 100%.
If McCain had to pay taxes on the full amount of the pension, it would have increased his tax bill by about $18,000 based on the percentage of his income he paid to the federal government.
McCain spent 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Hanoi. After he was released in 1973, he returned home on crutches and began a painful physical rehabilitation. He later regained flight status and commanded a Navy squadron before retiring from the service in 1981.
McCain would be the oldest man to enter the White House if he is elected president, and questions have been raised about his health.
McCain has twice developed melanoma, a potentially deadly form of skin cancer.
The fact that he is legally designated with a disability pension may raise further questions.
"It is a legitimate question to ask about the commander in chief: Is he fit to serve," said Robert Schriebman, a senior Pentagon tax advisor and tax attorney who recently retired as a judge advocate for a unit of the California National Guard.
If McCain can hike across the Grand Canyon, then why should he be getting disability payments from the government that are tax-exempt, Schriebman asked.
McCain shattered his knee and broke both arms when he was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967.
In his autobiographies, McCain said that his knee still bothered him in cold weather and that he was unable to raise his hands above his shoulders.
Elmo Baker, a retired colonel and president of a Vietnam War POW group, said many former POWs were receiving some type of military pension that was partly or fully tax-free.
Baker said he was receiving payments that were 70% tax-free, but that he "didn't have as many injuries as McCain did."
Many of the Vietnam POWs are receiving payment under a program known as "combat-related special compensation," which provides benefits and tax exemptions under a complex system, based on such factors as the type of injury and the years of service.
Paul Galanti, another former POW in the group, said that while McCain's injuries were serious enough to qualify him for disability, it would not affect his performance as president.
"I don't know of any physical requirements to be commander in chief," Galanti said. "He would have a nice car to drive around in and a nice airplane to fly in."
Now Now everyone you had your chance to do away with this ridiculous system. If you would have supported Ron Paul you could have made a difference. Whining on a message board does nothing. It ain't Federal and there are no Reserves. You deserve what you allow. Fiat money, and secret bank that determines your well being. When will you all ever learn? I pray for a market crash to shake the public from their hypnosis. We need a to do as the founders told us and over throw this government and put it back to a constitutional republic. Anything else is an exercise in futility.
Damn people, I see a lot of the blame game going on here. If you want to know who is to blame for this damn mess just look in the mirror. I did't see anyone @!$%#ing when the financial times were good and credit was easy to come by. Maybe we should have stopped for a minute and thought about what lay in the future. Economies do not peek forever. At some point they have to stall or becomed stressed.
I, for one, didn't ask for a loan when the 'credit was easy to come by'. It now looks as though I will have to put off owning my own home because I have to 'bail-out' those who were financially ignorant (this includes the greedy mortgagers). Bernake should legally change his name to "Captain Obvious", as any middle school-age kid could see that financially, we are "Going through 'difficulties'" . Why should I have to pay to help those who were too greedy and stupid to look ahead and see that what goes up, will, most assuredly, come crashing down? I agree with you BitterCritter that there is no permanent 'high' for economies and there are always lows that follow, but why must you and I pay for others' shortsightedness?.
This economy hasn't been good since Bush took over! Two recessions in eight years? I saw it coming. When Bush doubled the size of government payrolls to make everyone believe we're doing just fine and then print a bunch of money to pay for it what do you think will happen? I saw credit card debt getting out of control and everyone living off of their homes equity. Yes an economy has ups and downs but for the last seven years its been a down. I don't think this is a standard business cycle!
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How can this be? Two lines above this article on the MSN home page there's an article quoting the President as saying that the economy is "sound" - so which is it? Are we "sound" or "facing difficulties"? I'd say the article between those two (announcing massive lay-offs in the auto industry) probably is the most accurate assessment. At least it's fact, not opinion, and the facts are not comforting.
Too bad Bernanke doesn't take the credit due him (and his predecessor, Greenspan) for causing these "difficulties". Cheap interest rates and too easy credit (thanks to the Fed) led to the housing bubble. So Bernanke and the Fed decide to fix the problems caused by easy credit by... dropping interest rates! Amazing! Of course, what they wanted to have happen was for that cheap money to be used to refinance our way out of the mortgage crisis, but that didn't happen because the mortgage crisis has left no easy money to be made in housing. Moreover, the immediate effect of dropping interest rates was to cause a surge in the price of commodities, particularly oil (because it immediately lowered the value of the dollar). Now, most industry analysts will tell you that supply and demand would suggest an oil price of around $70/$80 per barrel, but with the dollar suddenly devalued, oil became a highly speculative commodity and all those whiz-kids on Wall St. (the ones who profited from the "mortgage crisis") took all that "cheap money" that the Fed gave them and have used it to buy oil futures - and, in futures, $5 borrowed from the Fed and/or its participating banks will allow you to buy $100 worth of oil futures, creating not only an artificially high demand and price for oil but also the seeds of the next "leverage crisis" (just like "subprime mortgages" were a "leverage crisis" - too little money/equity buying too much debt). When and if the oil futures market collapses, will we then need to again lower interest rates and further devalue the dollar in order to save the speculators? That's a rhetorical question, folks, we KNOW the answer. We are being robbed to pay the folks who rob us and we are supposed to take it?
H*LL NO!
FROM WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2008 THROUGH WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2008, WE ARE HOLDING A "TAKE BACK AMERICA" CONSUMER REVOLT. During those two weeks, don't buy anything. If you must buy something, buy only essentials and try to buy American made. If you cannot do that, then buy as little as necessary to get you through. Cash your checks but only deposit enough to cover expenses, so that the banks feel the pinch of not having your money to play with. Nobody will be ruined by a two week boycott (at least no one not already on the verge of collapse) BUT it will send a powerful message that the American consumer is tired of being fleeced. Consumer spending is over 2/3rds of the GNP. Even a transient interruption in that spending will be heard - and close enough to the election to make our anger known, so that, no matter who wins, they will be on notice that we are not happy.
This is a grassroots movement. We are relying on you - and you, and you, to spread the word. It's a simple message: From October 1 to October 15, 2008 we are going to hold onto our money. Pass it on - on every blog, on every website, on MySpace and FaceBook. This is not about partisanism, this is about telling those who exploit us that we refuse to be exploited.
Thank you.
Contrary to what our "Exalted Leader" says, it appears that the financial sector isn't faring so well. Let them eat cake!
Contrary to what our "Exalted Leader" says, it appears the financial sector isn't doing so well. Let them eat cake!!
Cake costs too much. Let them eat raman noodles.
Cat food might be cheaper!
"Let Them Eat Cake" comes from the French Revolution. When the Queen (Marie Antoinette) heard that the people were complaining that there was no bread, she said "let them eat cake." We are in a mess and now is the time for solutions. There is plenty of blame...but now we need to solve this crisis. Any ideas?
Actually, the quote is thought by some to be mis-attributed to Marie Antoinette.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/227600.html
As for solutions -- the American people are so divided you'll never get enough of them together to force any solutions, and that's exactly the way the people who keep us divided want it.
So...the only solution is to make the American people realize it isn't us against us, it's us against the people who succeed by dividing us. Good luck in that endeavor. {sarcasm}
Things are going to get much worse very soon (depression). I dont want to sound like one of those "the sky is falling people", but you may want to start stocking up on dry goods, canned food, and storing clean drinking water. Might not be a bad idea to have a few guns and ammo as well.
I think my grandparents beg to differ. Then again, maybe a good depression would knock Bush and his cronies off their high horses.
Bush will be living on his 100,000 acres in Paraguay by then with private mercenaries from Blackwater and CACI protecting him and his co-conspirators.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/23/mainsection.tomphillips
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/28/2544/07385
America -- land of the fleeced and home of the...SUCKERS!
Now wonder this snot-nosed rich brat is still so arrogant, even with the walls crumbling around his presidency. He played this entire country like a cheap fiddle and he's never going to be held accountable for it. It's his life story and America has allowed it to continue. SUCKERS!
Gee people, just the other day John McCain's financial adviser, the verable Phil Grahm (another former memeber of our in touch Congress), said this was all in our heads. We're a bunch of whiners... There's a campaign that's in touch with the American people, kinda like the present administration.
Vote out the incumbents, good and bad, get them out of office. Then vote in term limits and vote out their cushy retirements and perks. Too bad both the good and the bad lose when you practice zero tolerance but sometimes ya gotta do what you gotta do. Empty the house and the senate and start over clean, how much more could it hurt?
We're whiners,gluttons,tax payers.We are thought of as idiots,not Americans.Well what the hell do we know?
Phil Gramm calling us whiners and saying it's all in our heads -- how ironic when Gramm is the guy who is responsible for the current sub-prime meltdown as well as the Enron bubble.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/7/9/five_ways_wall_street_and_washington
The only way to change the course of this country short of a second,grassroots American Revolution is to vote for some party other than Republican or Democrat. These two political parites represent an autocracy that has been unchallenged way too long. There are other choices and political parties out there. You never hear about them thanks to our controlled media. Look at the ballot in November and find an alternative party and/or candidate to vote for. If you continue to support either Repubs or Demos,then you are part of the problem.
I agree!! Unfortunately it is but a dream. We would have to eventually vote in independent senators and congressmen who would then give in to the piles of bribery money thrown at them by lobbyists. If we could take the bribery out of the equation also then we would have a chance. None of this will ever happen.
If the vast majority of American voters believe as you do,then you are absolutely right. Vote for the independents...remove the current two-party autocrats... then work at dismantling the lobbyists who control Congress. Take one thing at a time but start somewhere! Your viewpoint is hopelessness and surrender. If indeed that is where most Americans are coming from,then it will indeed take spontaneous revolution to effect change. And if it comes to that,it won't be pretty.
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